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Thirty billion, ahead of Anthropic's listing

OpenAI is racing to line up about $30bn from investors, at a valuation that could top $1.4tn, before Anthropic's expected mid-November stock market debut, Reuters reported, citing people familiar with the talks. OpenAI declined to comment.

Dana Whitfield · Senior AI Correspondent
October 20, 20264 min read
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OpenAI is trying to secure investor commitments for a round of about $30bn that could value it at more than $1.4tn before Anthropic's expected stock market debut in mid-November, Reuters reported on Monday, citing people familiar with the matter. No terms have been announced.

Reuters attributed the valuation and the timetable to two people, and the size of the round to one of them. OpenAI and SoftBank Group declined to comment to Reuters, and Anthropic and MGX, the Abu Dhabi investment firm, did not immediately respond. We found no public statement from either OpenAI or Anthropic on the report by Tuesday afternoon. The mid-November date is Reuters' description of an expected debut; none of the sources we read gives a date announced by Anthropic.

SoftBank, MGX and other existing OpenAI backers are in talks to join the round, one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI met long-only funds and sovereign wealth funds last week while Anthropic was hosting its own investor day, and the round is expected to move faster than is usual for a raise of its size, the people said. SoftBank had already completed a $30bn investment in OpenAI's previous round, Komposite reported on 9 October, citing Bloomberg, which had described OpenAI's talks at about $1.4tn.

Why the hurry? According to Reuters' sources, the fast timetable partly reflects a wish to get ahead of Anthropic, because the two labs increasingly draw on the same investors, and to make use of OpenAI's recent revenue growth. One person said OpenAI wants to finish before Anthropic's financial disclosures give investors a fuller picture of its business and invite comparisons. Some investors see the push as an attempt to lock in money that might otherwise go to Anthropic's offering, the people said. Investors familiar with OpenAI told Reuters it also needs capital for its infrastructure commitments and its balance sheet, in case a weaker IPO market delays its planned 2027 listing. OpenAI has not stated any of these reasons itself.

What is OpenAI telling investors? That growth sped up after the launch of its GPT-6 Astra model, taking annualised revenue, the current monthly rate multiplied by twelve, to $50bn, with $70bn expected by the end of the year, according to one person. It has also cut prices on its cheaper models, which it says has lifted usage. These are the company's own figures as relayed by a source, not audited results. Earlier this month OpenAI told investors its run rate was near $50bn, not the roughly $70bn that had been reported.

Anthropic's numbers come from the same report. Its annualised revenue reached roughly $65bn by July, Reuters previously reported, and it told investors that third-quarter revenue rose to $16.8bn from $11.6bn in the second quarter. Reuters said slowing month-to-month growth had raised concerns among investors about Anthropic's valuation, and reported last week that some existing and prospective investors argued for a debut valuation closer to $1.5tn than the $2tn the company wants, after third-quarter results fell short of expectations. Those are investors' views as reported, not the company's.

As reported by ReutersOpenAIAnthropic
Valuation soughtMore than $1.4tn, in a round of about $30bn (people familiar)$2tn desired at listing; some investors argued for about $1.5tn
Last private mark$852bn in March, after a $122bn roundNot given in the report
Revenue claim$50bn annualised; $70bn expected by year-end (company pitch, per one person)About $65bn annualised by July; Q3 revenue $16.8bn, up from $11.6bn in Q2 (told investors)
How revenue is bookedNet: partners' shares subtracted upfrontOpenAI says gross; Anthropic says it follows established accounting practices
ListingPlanned for 2027Debut expected in mid-November

The two companies count revenue differently, and each defends its own method. OpenAI records revenue net, subtracting partners' shares upfront, and has accused Anthropic of inflating its revenue by counting the full, gross value of contracts sold through third-party cloud providers, Reuters reported. Anthropic told Reuters earlier that it follows established accounting practices. Until both publish audited accounts on a common basis, the headline figures above are not directly comparable. One person told Reuters that Anthropic's disclosures could lead investors to press OpenAI's chief financial officer, Sarah Friar, for more detail on its growth and outlook.

"OpenAI could want to set its own valuation and not have to worry about a comp (comparison)," Edward Best, co-chair of capital markets at the law firm Willkie Farr & Gallagher, told Reuters. "It's really a two-horse race in terms of being public." Reuters noted that Best is not working on the deal and spoke hypothetically.

The price has moved quickly. OpenAI was last valued at $852bn in March, after a $122bn round that included Amazon's agreement to invest up to $50bn, Reuters said; in September it was in early talks at more than $1.2tn. By our arithmetic, $1.4tn is about 64 per cent above the March mark, 28 times the $50bn run rate and 20 times the $70bn OpenAI expects.

The backdrop is less friendly than it was. Bankers and investors told Reuters that several companies preparing to list have chosen to wait until after Anthropic's IPO, and that some late-stage companies are timing private rounds to avoid it. AirTrunk REIT, Firmus and SB Energy have pulled or paused listings, and members of the Philadelphia Semiconductor Index have lost $1.6tn in market value in less than two weeks, Reuters said. Anthropic, which plans to list as a public benefit corporation, said on Sunday that it will commit five per cent of its shares to a public benefit fund, subject to stockholder approval.

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